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thegravyboat · Feb 02, 2006, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Just because I think Me's don't get enough attention...

Trolling over at the warrior forum, Ettin farming seems to be the popular topic as of late. It's pretty easy as a warrior AND just as easy with a mesmer.

Attributes:
Fast Casting 4 (3+1)
Illusion Magic 16 (12+3+1)
Domination Magic 1 (0+1)
Inspiration Magic 10 (9+1)
Healing Prayers 9 (9)

Skills:
Illusionary Weaponry
Spirit of Failure
Cry of Frustration
Illusion of Haste
Healing Breeze
Mending
Sympetic Visage
Physical Resistance

Gear
Enchanter's Atire
Illusion offhand
Sword w/ 15-20% Enchantments

So the run is pretty basic. Start in LA or Beatleton and say hi to the Ettins. Throw up mending, SV and physical resistance. So now they can only do their basic attacks and you should be able to recover that with mending. If you lose some life, healing breeze can help ya out if needed. Cast Spirit of Failure on an Ettin to regain your energy faster. Cast IW and attack. When the ettin uses healing sig, just use cry to cancel it. He shouldnt have time to be able to do a second one. Then move on the the next and repeat. So far works well for me. Might take a practice run or two to get it right.

Anyways, if you have some suggestions, post it up! Lets show the world what we me's are made of!

/Represent Mesmer!

c-onverse · Feb 02, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41

maybe you could fit in clumsiness there, maybe switch out mending or illusionary weaponry.. pump up your domination magic a bit, throw out cry of frustration and put in ignorance. you could also get rid of spirit of failure and sympathetic visage and throw in balthazars spirit and illusion of weakness.. This way you'll have:

Fast Casting 1 (0+1)
Illusion Magic 13 (9+3+1)
Domination Magic 10 (9+1)
Inspiration Magic 9 (8+1)
Healing Prayers 9 (9)

Illusionary Weaponry / Illusion of Weakness
Clumsiness
Ignorance
Illusion of Haste
Healing Breeze
Mending / Illusion of Weakness
Balthazar's spirit
Physical Risistance

Now you have exactly the build I use for ettin farming

(not sure about the attribute points tho

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Avarre · Feb 02, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

IW is a beautiful beautiful skill, how can you remove it?!

Nice build, I'll have to try it out... never liked ettins much, so mainly avoided them

Ju_Smurph · Feb 03, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

nice!

*takes notes to read this and try it again when he gets home*

SziP · Feb 03, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Nicely tough of, trying it right now.

berko · Feb 03, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

I have to try this too, seems my Warrior drop rate has been going down, so I might be luckier with mesmer.....
I'm still going after the ever elusive Sup Absorption :P

SziP · Feb 03, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

wouldnt a Me/W work much more faster?......IW and Flurry FTW?. Physical Resistance + Healing Signet would keep you alive i belive.

thegravyboat · Feb 03, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by SziP

wouldnt a Me/W work much more faster?......IW and Flurry FTW?. Physical Resistance + Healing Signet would keep you alive i belive.

It'd work, but I just didnt like the -40 armor

SziP · Feb 03, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24

thats why there is physical resistance.

Cirian · Feb 09, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

You can use Ignorance to disable their signet completely.

Illusion of Haste is worth a look just to get around quicker if you're going the IW route.

Also if you use a sword with IW and are a Me/W, you could take a collectors 16def, +45hits / -2 damage shield. Either use a 'while in stance' paired with Physical Resistance / Flurry or 'while enchanted' to pair with IW

Deadly Riposte (armour bypassing damage + bleed) or Shield Bash (knockdown + skill disable) are nice counters to Irresistable Blow and covers for Healing Signet / Ether Feast

There's probably a good 16 Illusion / 9 Tactics / Other Stats (maybe 10 Insp) build in there somewhere...

Miss Persephone · Feb 17, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Great post! I've just tried this out, and with my slightly tweaked build, I managed to pick up a sup fire rune, 2 major runes & a number of minor runes in one run

Not bad for starters...

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegravyboat

Attributes:
Fast Casting 4 (3+1)
Illusion Magic 16 (12+3+1)
Domination Magic 1 (0+1)
Inspiration Magic 10 (9+1)
Healing Prayers 9 (9)

You have one attribute point left over - may as well put it in domination, so cry of frustration does 3 more damage (or ignorance lasts 1 second longer - see further down)

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegravyboat

Cast Spirit of Failure on an Ettin to regain your energy faster

I found I was having energy issues with this build, so I swapped out spirit of failure for essence bond. It's most helpful when you have groups of 3 or more ettins. Just cast it along with mending & wait for regen before aggroing the ettins.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegravyboat

When the ettin uses healing sig, just use cry to cancel it. He shouldnt have time to be able to do a second one.

More often I find that they can fire off a second healing sig before Cry of Frustration has recharged. No big deal, still manageable. Is there any other interupt that might work in place of this with a faster recharge? I've had a look through my skills, but I can't see anything immediately. I might try out ignorance as suggested by Cirian - same energy cost, but half the recharge time (and possibly able to stop more than one healing sig in one cast)

Now my mesmer can try and make a bit more money (I'm bored of farming hydras & griffons now...) Thanks again!

Francis Demeules · Feb 17, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Very interesting build to farm some Ettin in Kryta. Illusion IW is really the best for Ettin for mesmer. I was thinking ,before this topic shows up, about a Pure Mesmer Domination build to farm Ettins (Not tested because I dont have epidemic now).

Ignorance/Diversion (Remove Healing Signet)
Signet of midnight (E) (Blind one
Epidemic (Always got 2-3 at the same time adjacant to the target)
Physical Resistance (Duh)
Spirit Shackle
Mind Wrack
Energy Tap (Got some Energy)
Ether Feast (Got some HP)

Those wich are Bold can be remplaced. I know Ettins doesn't have many energy. So I use Spirit Shackle and Mind Wrack. Problems with that: you must pass Mergoyles, Seed, Tengu Wild and Scout when you start at Bettletun. So what I do is to run at Ascalon settlement, kill some Ettins there and come back.

Francis Demeules · Feb 18, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01

For domination mesmer who want to farm some Ettin. It works nice. One thing: be sure you target an Ettin to put epidemic to everyone adjacant to him.

Signet of midnight (E)
Epidemic
Spirit Shackle
Mind Wrack
Empathy
Spirit of failure
Ignorance
Ether Feast

Tested and it works well

ALICE WInterLand · Apr 02, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

I like Illusion it works.good.I like Illusionsary weaponary at firsdt.cuz i can wait for my Energy bar to rechagre while attacking..........But after I get INEPTITUDE..my God.it was the best SKILL ever!!.. my Ineptitude did 108 when the enemy attack it interupt it and becomes Blindes for 10 solid second...The guide book that i bought ..isnt update...it says maxiumum 82 damage.but the my update dINEPTITUDE elite does 108 and blind 10 seconds.and after i use arcne echo.it takes Double the effect...its good against warriors /hard-hitting ettins...of course it works for any Caster too.
i lIke to bring.

Clusmsiness
Chaos storm
energy tap
ether Feast
Ineptitude(elite)
Arcane echo
spirit of failure
N ANY RANGER TRAP / Resurrect

thats for farming Ettins
when i go for Pvp ..or GVG My slot are all Mesmer skill...........i really use secondary skill...cuz mesmer skill are so fun to use.MESMER rules

Serra Knightfang · Apr 03, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

With 16 in Illusion Ineptitude does 142...I love Ineptitude, but I don't think it is as well suited for farming as IW is. IW does much more damage over time. Ineptitude does blind for 10 seconds but with PR and the like don't think it is necessary.
just my 2cents

Cymboric Treewalker · Apr 03, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

I would consider taking a Me/R to do this... throw dirt is a nice skill and would accomplish what you guys are trying to do.

Sentao Nugra · Apr 03, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker

I would consider taking a Me/R to do this... throw dirt is a nice skill and would accomplish what you guys are trying to do.

I thought about it when i first started to try and create a build for mesmer farming UW w/o 55 setup, but its expertise linked so is very short on blind duration.